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ADSL2+ and browsing in FF

Post by SyBorg » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:06 pm

Since being on ADSL2+ I've noticed something odd. Browsing in FF in version 1.5.0.6 or v2 beta 1 ends in frustration due to frequent freezes. It behaves like a slow DNS lookup or a need for DrTCP and yet browsing with IE is like lightning all the time.

Any thoughts? Can anyone please save me from having to use IE?
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Post by eMuNiX » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:44 pm

Give Opera a try, not because its better or anything but it is an alternative. Or try Avant browser, uses the IE engine (downside) but is a tabbed browser (much better than the rubbish effort at tabs in IE7)
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Post by SyBorg » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:09 pm

Opera appears to be working ok but now my life is over as I'm having to install and play with all these widget things. :lol:

Any ideas why the difference though?
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Post by eMuNiX » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:21 pm

I don't know the answer there but there is a couple of tweaks for FF:-

Here's something for broadband people that will really speed Firefox up: 1.Type "about:config" into the address bar and hit return. Scroll down and look for the following entries: network.http.pipelining network.http.proxy.pipelining network.http.pipelining.maxrequests Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading. 2. Alter the entries as follows: Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true" Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true" Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once. 3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives. If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages MUCH faster now!

pilfered from forevergeek.com/open_source/make_firefox_faster.php but not linking directly as there is some colourful language.
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Post by SyBorg » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:45 pm

Great info there eMu! Got to look at those options some more.

And it did help with the speed in FF but then..... freeze. I switched to Opera and it did the same. In IE I'm still going strong..
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Post by Kieran » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:45 am

Nice tip about the config there emu, you know I never knew that page existed in FF - I've always wondered where the "detailed options" are.

Still, I can't understand this freezing issue though I must say :(
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Post by eMuNiX » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:17 am

Kieran wrote:Nice tip about the config there emu, you know I never knew that page existed in FF - I've always wondered where the "detailed options" are.

Still, I can't understand this freezing issue though I must say :(
I might be stupid but I know stuff honest ;) Pretty sure that opera has a similar config page, but it doesn't need it as much as FF.......ooooh could get into a better browser competition with that ;) To continue with stupidness how does Nvu work? i can use MS frontpage but can't work this toy out. I guess I am too GUI oriented with graphics, big CorelDraw fan. Probably best I stick with a DTP package and make that a new site. My new idea for my new site is featuring my pets, believe me they will take up most of the 20MB available. I have /starts list...a rabbit, a guinea pig, 8 cats, a dog, 2 rats, a white chincilla, 2 pole cats, a Molucan cockatoo, an African Pygmy Hedgehog, 3 hamsters, 2 tortoises, 2 degus, a terrapin, a florida soft shelled turtle and some tropical fish (an Oscar, 2 huge silver dollars and a pleco)....lost the others recently :( oh and 4 kids...wife wants a donkey called Mildred next, I need something bigger than a council house now :(
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Post by Shotokan101 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:26 am

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Post by eMuNiX » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:51 am

Shotokan101 wrote:...and a Partridge in a Pear Tree.....
I forgot the Chipmunk and land snails :(
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Post by Alan » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:34 am

You middle name isn't Noah is it emu?

And you actually live in an Ark (not a council house) ?

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Post by SyBorg » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:37 am

eMu, do you ever get any sleep in your house? :D

A work colleague this morning tells me that IE is coded to use an MS specific IP stack that is optimised for use with Windows 2000 (same as XP). Other apps (FF, Opera) must use a 'standard' IP stack. In this case it could well be the MTU that needs a tweak I think, so I shall hunt for some recommendations for setting this on the router for Bulldog. I don't want to use DrTCP on my work laptop as we have a corporate MTU value and it could make all sorts of problems for me...
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Post by gazzer » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:27 am

eMuNiX wrote:I don't know the answer there but there is a couple of tweaks for FF:-

Here's something for broadband people that will really speed Firefox up: 1.Type "about:config" into the address bar and hit return. Scroll down and look for the following entries: network.http.pipelining network.http.proxy.pipelining network.http.pipelining.maxrequests Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading. 2. Alter the entries as follows: Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true" Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true" Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once. 3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives. If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages MUCH faster now!

pilfered from forevergeek.com/open_source/make_firefox_faster.php but not linking directly as there is some colourful language.
theres an extension for FF that pretty much does all these tweaks called fasterfox, i use this and it does speed things up a bit
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Post by Kieran » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:15 pm

SyBorg wrote:eMu, do you ever get any sleep in your house? :D
He posted before 3am, surely thats not "late" is it? Maybe its just me :roll:
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Post by Shotokan101 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:16 pm

Kieran wrote:
SyBorg wrote:eMu, do you ever get any sleep in your house? :D
He posted before 3am, surely thats not "late" is it? Maybe its just me :roll:
...I thought he meant "sheep" :P
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Post by SyBorg » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:17 pm

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